Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 17:12:39 -0400 (EDT) From: yossman To: procedure@crtc.gc.ca Subject: consumer's bill of rights (telephone service). good afternoon, i'm writing in response to a pamphlet i received which asks for consumer input on a new bill of rights you guys are trying to conceive and implement. point form, these are the biggest issues i see currently facing consumers as a group in dealing with telcommunications companies like bell canada: 1. invoices should have complete details of every single charge applied to an account, and i do mean everything. this includes any 'miscellaneous' services that currently get grouped together on the bill, each one of those sub-services should be listed and the price attached so we have a much better idea about why our bills just keep going up slowly but surely year after year. 2. mandatory continuation of mailed invoices. there is an effort afoot on the part of many corporations to eliminate paper-based bills in favour of electronic bills; from my experience this usually ends up resulting in more late fees charged to consumers, because people do not yet use their email like they use their regular mail boxes, and will often miss online bills. having a real piece of paper, mailed from a company you are paying for service, is a good idea and continues to be a good idea. the government of canada requires you have paperwork for any bills you are claiming on your income tax; having the bill with the bell canada logo and letterhead, on THEIR paper, is obviously preferable in terms of 'legitimate bills' than some email i printed off and am claiming. note as well that with the increases in spam and viruses over the last year, with no promising legislation in sight yet from our governments to curb this asinine use of the internet email system, it is getting increasingly easy to miss an online invoice/bill/statement. i receive up to 300 emails a day, 80% of which are spam and/or viruses, and i could easily miss such bills if i was forced to accept them. mandatory paper-based billing should NOT incur additional charges either! if anything, electronic-based billing should make our average monthly bill with bell canada DROP, not increase, since there is less physical paper and ink that has to be used to send out invoice runs. my fear (completely reasonable) is that in order to continue getting paper-based bills that they will add an additional absurd $1-$3 charge PER INVOICE mailed to you, or even, per page! to take bell canada as an example in particular, they already have to cover the cost of invoice mailouts with their current income levels. there should be no reason there has to be a fee increase to continue getting a paper-based bill. again, to re-iterate, monthly fees should be LOWER if people opt for electronic billing, and there should be no fee incrase solely because people request continuation of their paper-based billing. 3. mandatory number of days between an invoice mailout and the due date for the invoice. many months this year i received a bill from bell canada, with a generation date 3 weeks before i even got the invoice in the mail, leaving me with 7 days or less to pay it. this is completely unreasonable. if a bill is to be paid not more than 30 days after it is generated, we should be mandatory it be sent to us in the same 48 hour period it was generated. if they are late on their billing runs, they can not be allowed to charge late fees due to the fact that their own billing offices are behind, that's just an insult to consumers. 4. a review of the charges for unlisted or private numbers. again, going back to concerns over access to personal information from telemarketers and other potentially unsavoury characters, i find having to pay $5/month for an unlisted number is unreasonable as well. they also have more than one way to make your number private, each with different charges; why? how can it possibly cost them $5 per month per customer to unlist a number? that's highway robbery. thanks for your invitation to send in concerns, i've been waiting for such things to start appearing in my mail as consumer groups start to become more vocal in disputing overbearing corporate charging schemes. sincerely, yossman yossarian holmberg ( yossman at yossman.net ) director yossman.net 1533044 Ontario Incorporated.